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Question: Is Topuptv Anytime going to be successful?



« Created by: Eye2006 on: Aug 10th, 2006 at 12:52am »

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Eye2006
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Topuptv Sink or swim?
Aug 10th, 2006 at 12:52am
 
This is a poll thread and heavy debate as to whether Topuptv has the strength to see it through the years.

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Re: Topuptv Sink or swim?
Reply #1 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 1:37pm
 
i would like to see it make it,but it aint gonna happen.i subscribe totop up tv myself and there is only 2 quality channels,the rest is rubbish,its comeing to an end and wont make it past christmas
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Reply #2 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 2:10pm
 
Here's the problem. They're changing the way TopUp works, previously it was easily understood by joe public that if they pay a little bit more and a small subscription they will get some extra channels.

Now, not only have they [TuTV] lost their best channels to freeview but to keep the service you're going to have to pay up for another new box. Additionally it seems you can't actually watch many of the channels live any more you have to download the programmes the night before. This is a completely alien concept to anyone that doesn't know what a PVR is. Its going to turn a lot of existing customers off even without paying for new box. As for attracting new customers to the service which requires you cough up a much larger initial sum and then pay a subscription and then you can only watch previously downloaded content and I think you have a recipe for total business disaster. This subset of users is going to be tiny.

Personally I've got a PVR and I love it as much as any human can really love a machine, but the big selling point of the PVR to me was the ability to timeshift programmes and NOT the choice of more channels. I like the Sky+ability without the overheads of extra channels I won't watch. TuTv Anytime is forcing me to take extra channels on a subscription basis in order to get the timeshift capability, just the same as Sky. If the Toppy forums are anything to go by there are a fair number of users ditching Sky for just this reason. Having the ability to timeshift gives you much more viewing options anyway. All those programmes broadcast in the middle of the night or when you're at work suddenly become accessible, there's no need to have any extra subscription channels.

Once PVRs become more commonplace too then people are going to see what little TuTV is offering them. ITV Digital anyone?

The short of it: SINK and leave literally tens of viewers with redundant proprietary digiboxes which they can't sell or get their money back on. If you have shares in TuTV then SELL SELL SELL.
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Reply #3 - Aug 11th, 2006 at 7:43am
 
I've had TopUp TV for ages. Always been happy enough with it. Gold gives me a giggle and I like the old films on TCM. Simple concept, easily understood ... no being tied into long contracts.

Unless they give their new boxes away free though, I'll be dumping them.
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Reply #4 - Aug 11th, 2006 at 2:45pm
 
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The short of it: SINK and leave literally tens of viewers with redundant proprietary digiboxes which they can't sell or get their money back on.

Top Up TV is about 2.5 years old & (if reports are correct) over that period have build up their subscribers to 200,000. TUTV Anytime will need new STBs which are currently not available to buy. So from day 1, they will have to start building up their subscription base all over again. In the meantime, they will have little subscription money coming in to pay for mux streams/pay broadcasters. Although losing streams to 'five life' & 'five US', they will still have 2 steams & TCM. They will depend on these streams for their cash-flow so I don't believe they will turn their back on their current subscribers.

Based on Freeview channels schedules, viewers want sport & movies. There is talk that SPL will end timesharing with CITV & take-over one of these streams to make Setanta Sports 1 (French, German, Dutch, Italian football) available 7 days per week on DTT. TCM is not affected with the changes so their prime-time offerring will still be available. And I expect the other stream to be a Bloomberg/ Brit Eurosport timeshare.

So current STBs could still have a linear subscription service with 3 options :
1. nominal TUTV subscription : Bloomberg/Brit Eurosport, TCM
2. nominal TUTV subscription + Setanta Sports 1
3. Setanta Sports 1 only
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Reply #5 - Aug 12th, 2006 at 3:36pm
 
Before Topuptv, many people were happy and content with their brand new Freeview box. Suddenly Topuptv came along and launched their brand new service via the Freeview epg. This caused many boxes to simply crash, run even slower or completely die on everyone. There was a few who cannot get Sky and or cable and the new service was very attractive. I mean 7.99 a month for ten channels(later Toonami came on topuptv). Who could resist? Back then Freeview had atleast twenty three channels and the choice at that current time was pitiful. It was seen as shopping channel dominated and we didn't have channels like ITV3 or 4 or even E4 or Film4. It was attractive even to those who had chosen to go Freeview even though they could have sky or lived in a cabled street. Topping up the dreadful Freeview lineup was crucial for many Freeviewers who wanted a bit more and who were quite willing to pay a low low monthly fee.

For many freeviewers this change to their lineup mean't buying another set top box that had a slot capable of accepting Topuptv. In the begining these boxes were like hundred pounds or 99 pounds or even more for the PVR TOpuptv box. Then there was the TVX problem. Many lads or even gals wanted TVX. When subscribing to the full Topuptv service, what they didn't know was that they were subject to an independent contract with TVX for twelve months. Because Topuptv had not mentioned this, Many customers are only with Topuptv because they are stuck in that contract with TVX until only recently when I think they are probably relieved to get rid of that TOpuptv box(More a bit later)

OFCOM have recieved a number of complaints about Topuptv's false advertisement campaigns. They suggest you get ten channels and did not mention the connection fee in writing on any advert or the timings, so it doesn't appear that ten channels run full time, until OFCOM gave them a ticking off.

Now, two years later and Topuptv have gone into liquidation, surprise surprise  Roll Eyes , and they have retracked their old service and are due to launch TOpuptv Anytime. Details in exact explanatory is unavailable due to lack of response. It may appear that work is still going on, but it may also be a case that they are having problems getting the channel broadcasters to part with their money and invest in Topuptv's future.
But lets say they do launch on time and as promised. What will this mean to existing subscribers? This simply means that you have to purchase another set top box.So there you are with a Topuptv box that is completely useless and defunkt, because Topuptv have created a technology that is only available via a NEW BOX being manufactured by the illfated, cak technology skills and engineering known to man,AKA< Thomson! Many faults have been reported about Thomson set top boxes and don't even get me started on Customer services, because you have more chance getting through To Sky customer services than Thomson.

Boxes for existing customers will be hundred and fifty pounds. So if you want to continue with TOpuptv, you have to spend hundred and fifty pounds on a brand new box. For new customers, a whopping three hundred pounds! If I was a Topuptv subscriber, I would stop at this point.
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Many customers will simply turn away because not only is a new box costing a lot of money required, and not only deciding where this extra box will be located, you will be quite peeved off that Topuptv have not gone for a choice model which keeps the current service at a slightly reduced channel availability but who cares because that void would be filled with Five Life and Five US. And if you wanted to upgrade to Anytime, then you would be willing to purchase a new box. It works with Sky. If you currently have a sky box but want to upgrade to Sky plus. You would find that the box is either free or an exchange for your old one for a reduced cost of the Sky plus box OR EVEN HD BOX.

You see Topuptv are not giving existing customers any choice. it is either spend a fortune on a new box, OR sod off basically. Not what people in areas where Sky or Cable is not available. It basically gives customers no choice, or grim ones.
Topuptv seem to think the entire country will rush out to buy these new boxes, like it was a Goldrush or something!. They can dream, they can think again because at the end of the day, who is it that suffers?

It is you, the loyal customer. The one who has subscribed while others predicted its doom. Faithful as can be. And I thought Sky were bad.
If you want the truth, I think Topuptv has put the final nail in the coffin because if they think they can make a success of this, then I am seriously starting to wonder what planet they are really on? Smiley

To put a face to this situation    http://www.topuptv.com/press.htm
   
Ps: Those who were lucky enough to have Ondigital boxes, you will have remarked on how slow they are. Especially now as we get more and more channels and software upgrades are very limited to certain Ondigital boxes.many ondigital boxes were simply refurbished with Demode, Fishing junks at sunset pile of technology.
These ondigital or ITV digital boxes had a slot for a card which could accept Topuptv cards. surprise surprise!, Topuptv is the successor of ITV Digital which crashed and burned into a million pieces of shrapnel in 2002.
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Re: Topuptv Sink or swim?
Reply #6 - Aug 12th, 2006 at 4:04pm
 
When you look at these two men, you see two guys on a Get rich quick scheme. Like Dell Boy and Rodney who live half a mile in a Lego set built by Southwark Council. Or in a Charles Dickens perspective, the Bill Sykes and Artful Dodger of the 21st Century.

Somehow I doubt people will be dancing outside of some retail store on a cold winters morning like these lot with all the passion and excitement (see link)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBwXKSNue6A

Time Topuptv got into the real world and not in that book of make believe:D
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Reply #7 - Aug 12th, 2006 at 7:19pm
 
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Reply #8 - Aug 13th, 2006 at 7:42am
 
gomezz wrote on Aug 12th, 2006 at 7:19pm:
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Thankyou for your constructive imput on the subject of Topuptv. I know I can count on you Shocked
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Reply #9 - Aug 14th, 2006 at 12:20pm
 
Excellent posting, eye2006.

I am one of the loyal TopUp customers but will be dumping them once all this new stuff starts. Why would I want to pay out £150 on their box? I can't see that they will be around in a years time ... money down the drain.
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Reply #10 - Aug 15th, 2006 at 12:30am
 
The polls tell a story. Polls say NO FUll stop by a majority vote. These polls are not rigged or double voted so you can count on authenticity. Topuptv, more money than you can think of, but then some people(Ian chance and somebody West) have big dreams!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtoP1A_2s20

I rest my case with a glass of Scotch Whiskey. Distilled to purity from the scottish highlands. I drink to thee because in the 10's we will all be looking at Topuptv on a programme called 100 Greatest mistakes or blunders.
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Reply #11 - Aug 15th, 2006 at 10:35am
 
We're in the middle of recording our next podcast, and we'd love to get some comments from the forum to include in the show. If you feel strongly about TopUp, or the plans for the future, please call our podline and leave us a message. If we get some interest, we'll discuss this in the next show. The podline number is 0208 133 4567.
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Reply #12 - Aug 15th, 2006 at 1:13pm
 
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The polls tell a story. Polls say NO

You have made it clear that you wish TUTV Anytime to fail but don't state why? Are you a BBC, ITV or Channel 4 employee & don't like the British public having choice?

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Nearly three hundred quid for a new box and if you are an existing customer well it is hundred and fifty quids or nothing.

Aug 12th, 2006, 2:36pm
Boxes for existing customers will be hundred and fifty pounds. For new customers, a whopping three hundred pounds!

Aug 9th, 2006, 11:37pm
getting your hands on a brand new Anytime box. 200 pounds if you are not existing topuptv customer

Aug 9th, 2006, 11:33pm
existing Topuptv customers,the new boxes will be one hundred pounds. For new customers it will be atleast two hundred pounds.


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Reply #13 - Aug 15th, 2006 at 1:38pm
 
speculator wrote on Aug 15th, 2006 at 1:13pm:
You have made it clear that you wish TUTV Anytime to fail but don't state why? Are you a BBC, ITV or Channel 4 employee & don't like the British public having choice?


Possibly an ex-TUTV employee (who of course, left of his own accord)  Wink
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Reply #14 - Aug 15th, 2006 at 6:06pm
 
gomezz wrote on Aug 15th, 2006 at 1:38pm:
speculator wrote on Aug 15th, 2006 at 1:13pm:
You have made it clear that you wish TUTV Anytime to fail but don't state why? Are you a BBC, ITV or Channel 4 employee & don't like the British public having choice?


Possibly an ex-TUTV employee (who of course, left of his own accord)  Wink


lmao     Grin Grin Grin Grin
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