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Sep 21^st, 2012 at 10:35pm

Had to buy new telly, only one scart. Too old for this sort of merry-go-round. Main source of bewilderment at the moment is the new tv (Logik LED) has a built in fv tuner which finds 42 channels (don't know the source) whereas my ageing Humax PVR has far more from three transmitters. TV is obviously newly tuned - I dare not retune the PVR as retuning always loses channels and I'll never see Sky News again.
I had a scart lead from tv to PVR to DVD recorder and back to tv. Should it work just the same without the back to tv? Or should I get a scart multi box?
And aerial goes from wall (booster) to PVR to DVD to telly. But there are two outlets on the booster - would it be better to have one to telly and one to PVR (dvd isn't even digital I think and is used only to shunt programmes from PVR hard disk to DVD disc)
Also telly sound is really crud as they've put the speakers on the back - can I get ext speakers to work from the headphone socket?
Sorry it's a 50 pager! Any help appreciated.

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Reply #1 - Sep 21^st, 2012 at 10:48pm

Yes, you do not need the second SCART connection direct from the DVDR to the TV.

Your PVR having channels from three different transmitters is usually a recipe for problems. When did you last do a channel scan on the PVR?

You can get external speakers to work from the headphone as long as they have amplification built in. The type usually sold as PC speakers would work. But a better solution would be to feed a line level output from the TV to your stereo system (assuming you have one). Does the TV have red and white phono sockets for audio out? Or get a proper surround sound system or maybe a soundbar to handle the audio.

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Reply #2 - Sep 21^st, 2012 at 10:49pm

Connecting the scarts thus:

DVDR scart 1 to TV
PVR scart 1 to DVDR scart 2

will allow recording from PVR to DVDR.

The DVDR does not need to be in the aerial chain if it doesn't have a digital tuner.

You could use the second output from the booster to feed the TV and PVR separately. You could then use the power saving feature of the Humax.

You may be able to use the headphone socket to feed some external speakers. Alternatively, there may be some audio out connectors on the back of the TV.

For reception advice, we would need a postcode.

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Reply #3 - Sep 22^nd, 2012 at 10:03am

thanks for replies, I'll experiment along those lines all gets done very slowly!). I've not retuned the PVR because every time I do I seem to lose lots of channels, and never the tiresome old BBC ones, just the likes of Sky News etc, and you can't go back once you've done it. (Didn't mention I have a loft aerial because it's a listed building and I tried to avoid ext coathanger, dish etc - maybe cable one day). Are the other channels likely to be on the tv, hidden down a menu somewhere? Or is it more picky than the pvr about what it picks up? - thanks

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andyfras Guru Offline Posts: 9284 Fleet, Hampshire	Re: new telly :-( Reply #4 - Sep 22^nd, 2012 at 11:20am andyfras wrote on Sep 21^st, 2012 at 10:49pm: For reception advice, we would need a postcode.
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Reply #5 - Oct 2^nd, 2012 at 4:47pm

me again - progress in small matters as the Ching has it! There's a usb slot in the back where it says you can plug in a hard disk. I popped in a usb stick and it plays the video on it, and apparently recorded a programme, but it wouldn't play its own recording. Is a memory stick not the same as a hard disk for these purposes, or do I need to do something else? (It has put its own My PVR folder etc on the stick). Thanks

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Reply #6 - Oct 2^nd, 2012 at 10:37pm

Hi Just to answer a few of your questions We still need a post code off yiou so we can help you more efficiently

Why not just connect your PVR on it's on (for now) to the main aerial lead but first disconnect the aerial lead to the PVR and retune your PVR after the automatic tuning process has finshed you will have '0' channels ok so far! Reconnect the aerial just to the PVR
and retune once more then check how many channels you now have please let us know the outcome! The reason why a post code is needed you may be picking up other signals from other transmitters and also we can tell you the best
transmitter your aerial should be pointing to

It quite possible that some channels have ended up is the 800's and some may be duplicated too.
Also retune your Tv using the same method as I decribed earlier then check your Tv and see how many channels you have on your Tv. Re the recording facility (USB) not sure why it won't play back the recording your Tv made. It may be because the USB options on your PVR/Tv is not set up right, you say it created a folder so using your PVR/Tv's remote get in to the file via the PVR/Tv's menu and try and play it?
Do you get any error message on you Tv screen like unable to play video or unsupported format?
Ps: Don't forget we need your post code to help you further!

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Reply #7 - Oct 3^rd, 2012 at 9:37am

Almost every time I've retuned I've lost channels, and there's no way to go back once you've retuned. At the moment the tv (tuned only last week) gets only the BBC channels, the PVR (tuned a long time ago) has never given better reception on heaps of channels. I don't want to risk losing them. - I don't see what a postcode has to do with a usb stick for recording?? Cheers

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Reply #8 - Oct 3^rd, 2012 at 9:46am

Postcode has nothing to do with recordings however what the people here are getting at, is to attempt to resolve your lack of channels issue. Not to mention you losing channels on a retune.

Recording - Strange that it wont play its own recording, for all intensive purposes a hard drive like a usb stick only acts as a measure of storage, The fact it would play off the usb stick indicates that the device is formatted correctly. MY advice is to try again with a second recording.

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Reply #9 - Oct 3^rd, 2012 at 10:07am

Quisquis+ wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2012 at 9:37am:

Almost every time I've retuned I've lost channels, and there's no way to go back once you've retuned. At the moment the tv (tuned only last week) gets only the BBC channels, the PVR (tuned a long time ago) has never given better reception on heaps of channels. I don't want to risk losing them. - I don't see what a postcode has to do with a usb stick for recording?? Cheers

I never suggested it was??

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Reply #10 - Oct 3^rd, 2012 at 10:20am

Blacksythe wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2012 at 9:46am:

Postcode has nothing to do with recordings however what the people here are getting at, is to attempt to resolve your lack of channels issue. Not to mention you losing channels on a retune.

Recording - Strange that it wont play its own recording, for all intensive purposes a hard drive like a usb stick only acts as a measure of storage, The fact it would play off the usb stick indicates that the device is formatted correctly. MY advice is to try again with a second recording.

It is strange that it won't play, prehaps do a second test record and delete the file that won't play. Could be a corrupt file! Re Channel loss and lack of channels You just can't lose them totaly and forever!!!

Unless the OP is prepared to trust us then what else can we do?

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Reply #11 - Oct 3^rd, 2012 at 10:45am

Quisquis What you could try is put the USB stick back in and via the PVR's menu transfere the recording ( that won't seem to play) on to the PVR it self (copy/move) then try playing it back. If that doesn't work just try again playing the file directly
off the USB stick! You say it's created it's own folder for this recording. Normaly 'folders' are automaticaly created when a programme has more than one episode. A one off single programme doesn't usualy create it's own folder

Folders are usually Blue in colour. So if this is what has happened select the folder first then ok/select it then there should be a icon like a small reel of film click on that again using ok/select if it still doesn't play the file is either like I said before corrupted or the file size is too small to play on the PVR. HTH

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clemenzina Senior Member Offline Posts: 328 London, UK	Re: new telly :-( Reply #12 - Oct 3^rd, 2012 at 11:34am Quisquis+ wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2012 at 9:37am: I don't want to risk losing them. - I don't see what a postcode has to do with a usb stick for recording?? Cheers Are you concerned that publishing your postcode may be a security risk?
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Reply #13 - Oct 3^rd, 2012 at 11:51am

clemenzina wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2012 at 11:34am:

Are you concerned that publishing your postcode may be a security risk?

That is a possibility! One always has to be careful I know some years back a residential post code covered up to 15 houses and fraud can be commited so I always say just put your first part of the post code in Eg: ST1 at least we would have some idea and help Quisquis further

I would now say the fault lies possibly with the loft aerial/cabling/connections so these need to be checked first

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Reply #14 - Oct 3^rd, 2012 at 1:28pm

Bigboyuk wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2012 at 11:51am:

some years back a residential post code covered up to 15 houses and fraud can be committed so I always say just put your first part of the post code in Eg: ST1

I was trying to elicit from OP whether security worry is the reason for the postcode's non-divulgence, rather than the opinion that it wouldn't be helpful in diagnosing his/her problem. In my opinion any risk is negligible. I suppose that's not a discussion for this thread, maybe we should raise it elsewhere Huh

A problem with just the first part of the postcode is that "obstacles" and other local conditions cannot be ascertained. Hopefully it will not come to that

Perhaps OP would like to check Wolfbane and publish a screenshot with his/her postcode blanked out:

http://www.wolfbane.com/cgi-bin/tvd.exe?

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