Copying and Archiving from a Sky+ Box

Got a Sky+ or Sky+HD box and looking to copy the contents from the built-in hard-drive? Here are your options.

 

The Sky+ boxes are great for recording hours of TV, but what if you want to copy or archive TV shows, to free up space on the hard drive? We look at the various ways to do this, and answer your common questions on the subject.

Sky HD Box
How to copy TV shows from the Sky+HD Box

Can I copy from Sky+ using USB?

No. Most Sky+ and Sky+HD boxes have at least one USB slot. Sadly, you can’t use these to extract or copy content that’s stored on the Sky+ hard drive. These USB sockets are "reserved for future use". More: Sky box USB sockets

Sky Box USB Slot
USB socket on the rear of the Amstrad DRX890 Sky+HD box

 

Can I copy from Sky+ using the SATA connector?

No. Many Sky+ and Sky+HD boxes have a SATA socket at the back. SATA stands for Serial Advanced Technology Attachment and in the computing world relates to hard disks and data transfer. As some Sky+ boxes come with SATA, you’d be forgiven for assuming that you could use this socket to copy content from your Sky+ box to an external hard drive, or connect a second hard drive to increase storage.

The SATA socket is currently disabled, and "reserved for future use", so you can’t use it to extract content or add additional storage

Sky Box SATA connector
SATA socket on the rear of the Amstrad DRX890 Sky+HD box

 

Can I take the hard drive out and copy files?

No. Not really Well, technically, you can remove the hard drive and extract the files, but the files are encoded, and can’t be played back without a Sky subscription card. So, this is not an option

 

So, what are the options?

As content can’t be extracted or copied in a computer format, your only option is to copy content from the Sky+ box onto another media. Here are the options:

 

Copy to DVD

You can copy content from a Sky+ box onto DVD by connecting the output of the Sky+HD box to a stand-alone DVD recorder.

Here’s how to do this:

  • Connect a SCART lead from the Sky+HD box to a spare SCART socket on a DVD recorder.
  • Set the DVD recorder to the Line In feed (labelled AV, Line or Aux)
  • Insert a formatted blank DVD into the recorder
  • Cue up the programme on the Sky+ box that you want to copy
  • Put the DVD recorder into ‘record’ and then start playback on the Sky+ box

Note that some content, such as Box Office movies, can’t be copied in this way, to prevent piracy / unauthorised copying.

Copy to a computer

If you’re looking to get TV shows onto your PC or Mac, then you can connect the Sky+ box up to your computer, and get your computer to record the shows. You have to do this in real-time – i.e. an hour’s worth of content will take an hour to copy.

There are a couple of options:

Option 1: Using a TV Card or dongle

You can buy a fairly cheap USB dongle that allows you to watch TV on a PC. To watch TV, you need to connect a TV aerial to the dongle, then use software on the PC to tune in to the TV channels. If you want to watch / record Sky on a PC using one of these USB TV dongles, then you can connect a co-ax aerial lead from the back of the Sky box to the dongle’s aerial socket, then use the software to tune in to the RF channel.

Hauppauge WinTV-HVR900 Digital & Analogue USBPictured here is our favourite, the Hauppauge HVR900 USB TV stick (Available from Amazon , Dabs.com and Play.com)

Two important points to note with this option:

  • Quality via the TV aerial output isn’t great
  • Your TV card / dongle must support analogue (some only support Freeview digital, but the feed from a Sky aerial socket is analogue)

More info: Watching Satellite TV on a PC

 

Option 2: Using a USB video capture card

If you’re looking to capture content in better quality, then you’ll be needing a capture card. Typically, these plug into your PC using USB, then connect to the AV connectors on the Sky box. The three RCA photo sockets, pictured below are: yellow (composite video), white (left audio) and red (right audio). You connect these three sockets to equivalent sockets on the capture card, then use the supplied software to capture the video played in real-time from your Sky box

Sky AV Out sockets
SATA socket on the rear of the Amstrad DRX890 Sky+HD box

A popular choice for USB capture products that work with Sky is the Dazzle range from Pinnacle, pictured below. These are available from Maplin.co.uk or Dabs.com.

Dazzle Video Creator Platinum
A Dazzle Video Capture Device

 

Sky+ Recording TIP:

Sky+ Record iconSky+ boxes allow copying of multiple programmes at a time. To copy multiple programmes, go into the Sky+ Planner, highlight a programme, press the right arrow button, then press the green "Copy" button. Select each programme you wish to transfer, then use ‘Copy’ to start playback of each programme in order.

 

More Sky+ Recording Tips

Thanks to forum regular Denis Martindale for the following additional Sky tips:

  • Some channels have programmes that switch the 16:9 screen format to display a central area with black space to the left and the right. This has been noticed with the Sky + HD box HD channels. To avoid recording these in the 16:9 format, if that’s currently been set using the SERVICE button then zero, the Sky + HD box can be switched to the 4:3 format instead for both outputs, then press the green button to save the settings. After the switch, press the backup button twice to exit, till you get to the main TV display, which now appears in full screen width, even if not a perfect view, still easier to view than before. Please test and make sure you are OK with that 4:3 view. After the playback, or the recording to a DVD Recorder or a VCR, or some other external recorder previously explained in the Radio and Telly forum discussions, remember to switch back to the 16:9 screen format and to save that option for normal widescreen TV displays.
  • Even with the basic Sky + box, copying is safer when not mixing the widescreen with the non widescreen, such as widescreen films mixed with standard TV shows. Regardless of what the info says is widescreen or not, it helps to preview and fast forward the programmes before a full rewind to the start and then setting up the left arrow then green for COPY option… That way you know what will work for all your overnight playbacks.
  • For Sky + HD recordings, the HD channels can use up more storage. So, when possible, record and copy your HD shows quickly to clear the storage for future use, as well as permitting storage for the Timeshift playback to work, because when under 15% remaining, the playback may suddenly stop being available. You may wish to rewind, only to see a screen message to tell you it’s disabled. You must also try to view programmes and record them at the same time to the DVD Recorder etc, till safely done, perhaps also safely saved to DVD disks, then deleted from the DVD Recorder’s hard drive. Another alternative is recording to DVD disk instead of the DVD Recorder’s hard drive, if your recorder has proved reliable for this.
  • DVD disks can be bought in bulk yet depend on the recommended speed and format eg single use in either DVD -R or DVD +R, or re-recording disks such as DVD -RW or +RW. When buying, remember some websites offer free delivery and that sites like play.com have regular discount deals to be compared. Perhaps as low as £11 for 100 disks eg Maxell DVD -R 16x speed disks from play.com for some recorders that accept that speed and format. Some recorders create helpful thumbnail images to help identify each recording.
  • The Sky + HD quality is not full HD quality as yet, so remember to use the XP or SP quality on recorders for important recordings, for more lines per screen view and maybe the LP speed for the rest e.g. up to 4 hours per disk.
  • The Sky autopadding allows a few minutes before and after recordings, but some recorders can split multiple recordings for a session up to 12 hours overnight. You may have to edit the title name and select split or divide points to get just the programmes, or may decide to use the delete feature to delete the commercials, etc.
  • Some may like the programme info to be recorded as well, so use the info button to display details temporarily.
  • If ever cancelling Sky subscriptions, in full or just one channel, remember the Sky + hard drive may still have recordings you need to get copied and deleted first. The 30-day cancellation grants lots of time to attempt to control this situation before losing your favourite films and TV shows.
  • When your storage space is running low, remember that you may be watching a recording for half an hour and yet know there’s no need to keep that part of the show. You can use the R button to cancel the recording, then use the TV GUIDE button, then green for Planner and find and delete that programme or film segment to free up space for future recordings. Even so, don’t forget to get back to your channel and your show and press the R button again to start a new recording of that show from part 2, for example.

 

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32 comments

  • paul batty

    Can you recommend any specific DVD recorder for recording from my Sky + box or will any do?

  • Tess

    Can I record MUSIC from the Sky box to a memory stick? Not video, just sound.

    • No – Sky box doesn’t support that

    • Robh991

      You could use a male stereo phono (plugged in to the audio output of the sky box) to male headphone Jack cable (plugged in to laptop/PC audio in) and use software like Audacity to record the audio on to your computer. Then transfer that file to a memory stick

  • Chris

    Re copying and archiving from a Sky Box – we’re thinking of leaving Sky but there’s a couple of things we want to keep. I’ve read through all your suggestions and it seems way too complicated to me! Any idea if there’s people around who will perform this service in return for payment?

  • Stewart

    You can now get HDMI Splitters + HDMI Stream recorders (Hardware Encoder)

    HDMI Splitter allows Some (But NOT ALL) HD Content that’s HDCP to be recoded
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Switch-Splitter-Input-Output-1080p/dp/B006KZBC92/
    – TV in HDMI OUTPUT 1
    – Recorder in HDMI OUTPUT 2

    HDMI Stream recorders (Hardware Encoder)
    AVerMedia C875 (GL710) – Live Gamer Portable (LGP)
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/AVerMedia-C875-GL710-Portable-Capture/dp/B00C1EO536/
    – This little gem will recorded shows without a PC/Mac to SD Cards
    Note: This is Picky about the SD Card Speeds and requires the more Professional Class 10 – 80MB/s SD Cards [SDHC SDXC]
    – with a PC it allows more control and thanks to the Hardware Encoder this will work on the worst budget slow pc hardware as long as the HDD can keep up

    32GB SDHC – Class 10 – 80MB/s
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-SDSDXS-032G-X46-Extreme-Class-UHS-I/dp/B00D6Y0U8E/

    However it does support 64GB & 128GB SDXC Cards if your reformat them to FAT32
    64GB SDXC
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-SDSDXS-064G-X46-Extreme-80MBs-Class/dp/B00D6XW62I/

    128GB SDXC
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-SDSDXS-128G-X46-Extreme-UHS-I-Memory/dp/B00D6XX2PI/

    DONT Use slower Class 1 or below Class 6 with lower 45 30 20 MB/s Card or you will Corrupt Videos

    Pro Cards will last a lot longer due to the SD Memory Controller and can undergo lengthy recoding sessions making them more reliable

    After the Recordings done you can move the Recordings to Slower 30MB/s | 20MB/s SD Cards for playback and cheaper storage
    The Formant to SD is *.TS Format and very Quick to convert to *.MP4
    The Format on pc you can PICK MP4 or TS Output

  • John

    Watch the program that you want to record on a PC/Laptop via Sky Go and use a screen recorder program to save it as a video file. Applian Technologies screen recorder works a treat and if you don’t want to watch the program, once set up it will record in background mode so that you can continue to use your PC normally. It records as .mpg and will automatically convert to other formats .avi, .mp4 etc. after recording is complete.

  • JohnK

    My friend lives abroad and I regularly email him DVD’s of his favourite shows I’ve downloaded to the hard disc of my DVD recorder then burned onto DVD. Is there a way of copying the hard disc of my DVD recorder to an external hard drive and sending him that?? Post is extortionate and this might save a few quid?! Thanks

  • JohnK

    I have downloaded content from Sky + to the hard disc of an external DVD recorder. I then burn DVDs of shows to send to a friend who lives abroad. Is there a way to burn the lot onto an external hard drive at one time and send him that instead of the DVDs? Thanks

    • Joanne

      if you have a dvd with a hdd that is connected by ethernet you could copy to your computer. Panasonic dmr recorders have that function.

  • Hi- I can do this for a single recording from Sky+box to HDD on DVD recorder. However do I set it up to record multiple programmes from sky+ box to HDD – would be much quicker for me just to set it up before I go to bed at night ! Any advice would be appreciated.

    Dave

  • Martin Smith

    I want to copy some recorded clips from my Sky + HD box and save them on my laptop. Following advice on the site I bought a Dazzle video capture box. It worked but the resolution was poor, doubtless due to the digital to analogue conversion in the Sky box and the conversion back again in the Dazzle box. So following later advice I bought a Hauppauge HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition box and a 1 input 2 output 1080p full HD HDMI splitter box which according to customer reviews on Amazon would disable the HDCP. But no luck. I just got a green screen in the capture software on my laptop. It makes no difference whether I set the software up for XBox or Gaming PC. I downloaded the latest Hauppauge software. I swapped the splitter output cables over and the TV works fine on both splitter outputs. Still no luck. Any advice would be most welcome.

    • Ronald Antley

      Hi.

      Hopefully you’ve solved your problem, but if not I can help! I wanted to do the exact same thing, also bought the Hauppauge HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition box, and tried out (and returned) a few different splitters. I finally found the right one (which also turned out to be the cheapest!) online at http://www.homestudiostuff.co.uk.

      It’s the HDCP BYPASS SPLITTER (£17). Cost me a total of £25 (incl. VAT + shipping) to get it shipped to London.

  • gaza1121

    In regards to taking out the hard drive and copying straight from that, if you download a program called copy+ you can convert them

  • Hello, I have a sky plus hd box which has just become faulty however, I have lots of planner programmes I would like to keep. If i send you the box or just the hard drive, will you recover these for me for a fee, maybe onto discs if possible.

    If you can I would be delighted to hear from you. Many thanks, John

  • Francis

    We purchased an ‘Elgato Video Capture’ that utilses the RGB pins (Red, White and Yellow) and then passes this into a computer via USB. We have two of them and this works very well for our MacBook Pro. The only drawback is that the output has to be watched at the same time. The results are very good however and if the choice is to have programmes or not have programmes I’d choose this.

  • D. McKiernan

    Nowadays you can use a cheap splitter and an HDMI capture card to capture in HD, which is better. The HDMI splitter must be v1.3b and not v1.4 though. I got the whole kit working for around £45.

    Tools required (confirmed working in full HD).

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/hauppauge-pvr-2-145210-IF-/262104723776?hash=item3d06a8b140:g:YRYAAOSw14xWJ1t4

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0088HP93A?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

  • Geoff Nokes

    Hi – have tried to copy a programme from my sky+ box using a Daewoo DFseries video/DVD recorder without success. Your recommended procedure is the same as in the instruction manual so I am mystified!

    Scary of sky box is connected to av2 of recorder, and recorder av1 is connected to scart on tv. Input selection of DVD recorder is set to av2 and SP. Unformatted blank RW disk in recorder requests wait for formatting which completes then starts to record. Releasing pause on playback of desired skybox programme shows the programme seems to be recording but I cannot play it back at the end of the recording and the disk information on screen says it is empty!

    Any advice would be appreciated – thanks

  • Jackie

    I had the same problem . with trying to get the menu on the DVD recorder on the TV then trying to get the highlighted planner programme to copy. I had 2 scart connections and 2 aerial connectors!! I think my DVD recorder ( which was bought on ebay as working but without tuner!) was faulty and luckily the seller is letting me send it back.
    I’m a bit worried that if I purchase a new recorder the same is going to happen.

  • Thomas Kovacs

    John K said in January 28th 2015 that he downloaded content from Sky Plus to external hard disk.
    Could anyone please tell a newbie how to do this and what electronics are needed.

  • Fred Rason

    I+have+a+500gb+sky++box+that+frequently+has+just+15%+storage+available+as+I+have+downloaded/recorded+box+sets+&+complete+hd+series+as+I+work+away+from+home+reguarly.+I+bought+a+1tb+sky++box++today+-+can+anyone+tell+me+if+I+can+copy+the+content+from+one+box+to+the+other+before+pairing+sky+subscription+card+to+the+1tb+box.

  • Jake

    Can you transfer recordings from a sky+ box to a hd one or is it not possible NEED A QUICK RESPONSE sorry if anyone thinks I’m being bitchy

  • D.b gray

    A friend wants to copy some Sky Drama material onto DVD and is picking up a small yellow triangle on the Sony recorder stopping the transfer anyone else had this

  • I+have+a+a+sky+dish+with+a+sky+plus+box+connected+to+my+main+TV+I+don’t+have+an+Arial+but+want+to+connect+another+TV+in+my+kitchen+can+I+just+connect+another+cable+to+the+spare+out+on+my+LMB++directly+in+to+my+kitchen+TV+which+has+free+veiw+built+in.?Basically+using+the+dish+an+airial.

  • william

    I have a Freecom DVD RW Recorder and am looking to record tv shows recorded on the Sky+HD BOX.. I am not looking for HD quality SD will do but the Freecom dvd recorder doesn’t have the old scart socket it just has the modern usb socket on the rear. Will a scart to usb lead still record the programmes to discs ?

    • Martin smith

      You can buy a little box which will enable you to copy from a Sky HD box to a laptop via the hdmi cable so you don’t lose video quality. You can then edit it and get screen grabs (still screen shots) easily. I wrote this up in more detail and posted it on the web a year or two ago but can’t remember where at the moment. Martin

  • Marc

    Does anyone know if the DigitNow! Video to Digital Converter works with a sky + box? It looks very user friendly… Thanks for any help.

  • Dave ISIRTA

    Sorry+to+join+the+discussion+late+but+I’ve+recorded+a+number+of+radio+programmes+off+Radio+4+Extra+onto+the+Sky+++box+and+want+to+transfer+them+to+an+easier+way+of+listening+to+them+in+the+car.+The+DVD+option+sounds+the+most+straightforward.+Not+bothered+with+picture+quality+(obvs!).++Any+advice+gratefully+received.

  • HM

    Want to transfer shows from sky box to dvd..Please email with info.,

    Thanks.,

    From H.M.F.

  • Tony Davies

    I’ve been trying to record some events that I have saved over the years onto a DVD using the advice indicated above and have not been successful. I spoke to to Satellite engineer this week and he informed me that recording from a Sky+hd box is no longer achievable because Sky has encrypted everything. You can record anything that is streaming at the time but not recorded programmes.
    Unless anyone knows anything different?

    • Graham

      Tony

      ClonerAlliance Box Pro, capture 1080p HDMI videos, Sold on Amazon.

      Connects to HDMI and records HDMI output of SkyBox (ignores HDCP) straight to an NTFS formattted USB stick or portable HDD/SSD.

      To record, you select record on a chunk of stored programs on Sky box, then connect up device to HDMI out, then start recorder, then the sky player.

      It records at 1080p, in HD quality.

      You then get one large mp4 file (I have recorded 8 movies in one shot, 8 programmes is the Sky box limit) which you can chop up with a free app called LosslessCut (a great little editing tool).

      Not a cheap tool, but IMHO, worth every penny.

  • Geoff

    Hi,

    I am trying to ‘copy to DVD’ via my Panasonic DMR EZ49V from my Sky +HD boxes (various models), all of which are full.

    I have a current Sky +HD box connected to my TV in the lounge with the viewing card inside separately.

    The full old box(s) are connected up in my bedroom using the SCART cables to the Panasonic, all looks fine.

    However, I have powered up the Sky box, set the right channel on the TV, and selected ‘Planner’ to select the content that can be transferred without encryption.

    There is nothing in two boxes showing in my ‘planner’, do I therefore need a broadband, or satellite connection? Surely I don’t need the current viewing card transferred over as well?

    Please advise, thanks

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